36 Year Old ADMIN says ABLIST SLUR in the OFFICIAL skyblock discord

Discussion in 'Reports' started by NeztonMC, Mar 25, 2021.

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  1. AmberMakenna

    AmberMakenna New Member God

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    firstly, there were about 5 other people in the vc clearly hearing fireshadow stating to both yourself and xxbw that if you kept up with the spam y'all would get temp banned. secondly, if you clearly look at the bottom of the screen you both were making fun of fire, "weird admin loser moment" and "I bet he beats his mom". I wonder if that's any better?
     
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  2. Borked

    Borked Member God

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    I think it is obvious that words like this should not be used, but I don't think Fire meant it in a way to actually offend or discredit anyone who is genuinely neurodivergent.

    Claiming "this admin is so bigoted" I think is a bit of an overstep as well. Fire has been nothing but extraordinarily respectful from what I have found so far. I think this would have been better to discuss privately, rather than trying to "expose" him.
     
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  3. Borked

    Borked Member God

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    Do you own both the ProcchBocch account, as well as the NeztonMC account? Both accounts joined the forum on the same day, you both show support to each other on forum posts (https://skyhubmc.com/threads/i-am-a-changed-man.31594377/), and you have been caught logging into the server with an alternate account (https://skyhubmc.com/threads/neztonmc-ban-evasion-ban-appeal.31594378/#post-134283596).

    ProcchBocch also has not logged onto the server for over 1-1/2 months. It is a bit odd that they are active on the forums, despite not playing on the server for quite awhile. Posting on an alternate account in support of your own post is probably not the best look.
     
  4. SkyHubMC

    SkyHubMC Website Creator Staff Member Admin

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    As part of our commitment to transparency, we are releasing the relevant section of in-game logs regarding the reported incident:
    A staff member will respond within the next 48 hours.

    Thank you.
     
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  5. 1stGlitch

    1stGlitch Well-Known Member Staff Member Admin

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    I am first going to remind everyone that this is a report, not an appeal, and as such the final decision will either be to take further action against the reported staff member, or not to. I am going to go ahead and abstain myself from that decision so I can express my opinions freely.

    You've accused Fireshadow of some pretty horrific and disgusting things here. If you're going to make accusations like this, then I sincerely hope you have evidence to back up your claims, because I do not take too kindly to members publicly slandering our admins. Yet, all I see is a nine second video clip containing 13 words with absolutely no context. Do I condone the use of those words? No. But it was said in a private setting, in a voice chat with only a few people, and it was directed towards a general group of trouble-making players, not you specifically. It's a similar environment to when you said he was "definitley a child groomer" in the hub chat just a few seconds later. Or when your accomplice xxxbw said "i bet he beats his mom", along with a number of other expletives which can be seen in the posted log. In fact, I would argue that what the two of you said about him is far worse than anything he said. If you have any other evidence of this so called "bigotry" (or racism, misogyny, or homophobia) then I would like to see it.

    I will finish this off by making a note that conversations that occur over voice chat have always been held to a lower standard than those which occur over text. It is up to the staff member in the channel to gauge the audience and act accordingly. This has always been the case, if you don't believe me, than I will direct you to this appeal from 5 years ago, which makes mention of a staff member using the "C" word in TeamSpeak: https://skyhubmc.com/threads/deathbeyonder-ban-appeal.27474322/

    Another staff member will follow up shortly with a decision on whether or not action will be taken,

    ~Glitch
     
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  6. 1stGlitch

    1stGlitch Well-Known Member Staff Member Admin

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    We make an effort to post all relevant logs for ban appeals and reports, it's something we started doing last year, in order to remain transparent to our community on these important decisions. The logs are not meant to help or hurt anyone's case, they're merely there in an unbiased format to show context. It reduces the "he said, she said". The logs contain the relevant messages/commands from all involved parties during the alleged incident, if we had logs of discord voicechat then we'd release those as well, but we don't, so this is what we have.

    I guess we'll have to agree to disagree then, I would absolutely equate falsely accusing someone of bigotry, racism, misogyny, homophobia, and "child grooming" to be on the same level or worse then anything he did, especially after you provoked him into doing so. Yes, it's a public voice channel, but at that time with only a few people in it, the same way your comments were made on a public hub server with only a few people on it. And to clarify, I said the comment was directed in a general sense toward a group of trouble-making players. Yes, you are a member of this group, I wasn't trying to imply otherwise.

    ~Glitch
     
  7. RockRevenchy

    RockRevenchy Dirty Pirate Staff Member Admin

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    Ahem,

    https://skyhubmc.com/threads/tw805-robbery-ban-appeal.31594381/
    https://skyhubmc.com/threads/neztonmc-ban-evasion-ban-appeal.31594378/#post-134283592
    along with multiple mutes/kicks/other tempbans and now this.

    Obviously you and your little friends never wanted anything good out of this server except for a strong desire to be a major annoyance to its community and their staff.
    I understand you may require attention as I'm sure you lack some especially during quarantine time but perhaps acting like a pr**k isnt exactly the best way to go around.

    But hey you're free to spend your time however you want, it's a free world, but this seems like a sad way to waste both your own and other's time from my perspective. ;p

    ~sincerely Rock
     
  8. Kazzillyown

    Kazzillyown New Member

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    I'm going to say my piece here for everyone to read.

    Given your history with the server and the multiple times you have been nothing but a problem, you come making claims against a new staff member.

    One who is standing surrounded by nothing but the filth they have created themselves, done nothing but ruin their name, reputation and any and all reasons to ever be trusted, should not then sit and cry foul and wonder why they are not directly taken seriously.

    Will we do everything to make sure the server is a enjoyable place for everyone? inclusive for all who wish to come and share in the fun with those here? yes.
    Will this accusation be taken seriously and investigated to the best of our abilities? Yes.
    Will we just blindly believe you or allow you to attempt to do nothing but slander, harass, and attempt to rile players up against the staff? No.
    Once the event has passed and we are certain of our decision on this topic I will be putting in my recommendation to permanently remove yourself, family and direct friends involved from the server permanently.
     
  9. NeztonMC

    NeztonMC Member

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    What does my mom have to do with this?
     
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  10. Sieanx

    Sieanx Crazed Lunatic Titan

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    Your chatboxes didn't make the best first impression if I'm honest, why are you even insulting staff members?

    my nephew and cousin are both on the spectrum but I can promise you they have thicker skin when hearing the word r*tard, from what I can see it just seems like you're picking a fight with the staff in retaliation for being banned.

    Fire's not excluding anyone based on their condition so it's hardly ableist, he's also not picking on anyone specifically or calling any specific person r*tard based on their condition because for one thing, he doesn't know if anyone has a condition.

    I really want to know how it even escalated like this?
     
  11. coolthom

    coolthom Active Member Staff Member Admin

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    Necessary steps will be taken.
     
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